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Arkoth 24
Phayder
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Posted - 2016.03.01 08:56:11 -
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Just because someone should make it already.
I DO NOT expect CCP to put EVElopedia back online. I DO NOT think this thread will change CCP mind and force 'em to cancel EVElopedia shutdown. This thread was made to show community's opinion and, probably, to find some other way to bring EVElopedia back to life.
Why?
1. 3rd-party wikias lack on information about New Eden's lore and history.
2. EVElopedia was directly accessable from Help menu and popular among new pilots.
3. EVElopedia was an official resource. 3rd-party wikias may be closed by their owners anytime, access to 'em may be limited, and it's content may not be trusted.
What now?
If someone have enough time and effort, he may be able to make a mirror-site for EVElopedia and community may ask CCP for full EVElopedia dump - if it was not destroyed already.
Take a shot now.
Source: http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/eve-online-news/evelopedia-shutdown-2016-02-29-09-00/?_ga=1.178812132.1797931384.1448610908
Related threads: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6362441#post6362441 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6370184#post6370184 |
Arkoth 24
Phayder
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Posted - 2016.03.01 10:31:32 -
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Elmund Egivand wrote:Go support their efforts instead. Sounds nice, but let's aim for some higher goal: full-working EVElopedia clone.
May be EVElopedia's closure will give it community attention at last. For years we forget 'bout it - just because it was always here and no one gived a drek to it. Now it's gone - and looks like we still need it. |
Arkoth 24
Phayder
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Posted - 2016.03.01 10:45:01 -
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Ncc 1709 wrote:i noticed one of the devs say he's working for stuff for the new site, but its not online yet... EVElopedia was nice because it provided information on both EVE mechanics AND lore for new pilots right-here-and-right-now. Some other sites may be good, but i don't think it would be the same thing. |
Arkoth 24
Phayder
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Posted - 2016.03.01 10:58:47 -
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Aviola von Yodalgut wrote:A mirror site is useless unless it'll be kept up-to-date.
If it is kept up-to-date then it'll just become a player run site and there are already a few good ones of those. EVElopedia was outdated in many ways, but it was community's fault only. It was up to players, not to CCP to update wiki with new data.
As about other wikias - i said it already: they are mostly up-to-date and got good explanation on EVE's mechanics for new pilots, but they provide almost no information on lore and history, and they are not officialy approoved. |
Arkoth 24
Phayder
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Posted - 2016.03.01 13:06:35 -
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Tisiphone Dira wrote:Why stop there?! Long as we've got devs working on useless and redundant content, lets get them working on walking in stations as well! You're blind. Totally.
"Lore is useless, WiS is useless, gimme more crap to grind!!" - i heard dat bullshit thousand times. Lore makes world of EVE interesting for newcommers and RP-freaks. WiS is a new base for interaction among capsuleers, which also makes New Eden to be not only raw mechanics and mindless "search-and-destroy" thing.
New Eden needs to be a world out of pod, not some sort of cooperative butt-kickin'. At least for those, who's not r-¦t-¦rd-¦d.
Aviola von Yodalgut wrote: And as i answered there - i doubt it will be so easily accessible as on wiki engine. It would probably be one more "lore-which-no-one-read" site, not some short and easily gained right from NeoCom information. |
Arkoth 24
Phayder
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Posted - 2016.03.01 17:46:07 -
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tiberiusric wrote:i was thinking about hosting it so ill try do it i have a eve site im working on so it should fit in. ive downloaded the database so watch this space. Sounds nice. Take a try and tell us how we can support it.
The 102 Mb download linked in news post is just a dump for "player content" only, i guess. And i don't think there was a lot.
Bumblefck wrote:More toilet paper, please Sure thing, i'll send you some to fight your diarea. |
Arkoth 24
Phayder
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Posted - 2016.03.01 22:27:48 -
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Aviola von Yodalgut wrote:Typical
Before its removal players tended to use other sites because they were better.
Since its been removed all of a sudden people care, pity they didn't care enough before its removal. You make it sound like someone like you pay attention to what they have before they lose it. |
Arkoth 24
Phayder
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Posted - 2016.03.01 22:31:51 -
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Aviola von Yodalgut wrote:Arkoth 24 wrote:Aviola von Yodalgut wrote:Typical
Before its removal players tended to use other sites because they were better.
Since its been removed all of a sudden people care, pity they didn't care enough before its removal. You make it sound like someone like you pay attention to what they have before they lose it. Well if you don't notice what you have then you don't deserve it anyway. That goes for relationships as well. That's in human nature. People usually suck in some many ways so there's no need to point it out. |
Arkoth 24
Phayder
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Posted - 2016.03.02 07:39:51 -
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Memphis Baas wrote:Because that's how wikis are kept current and relevant: people sign, wear pink ribbons, and organize walks. It's good to see i'm not the only one toxic in this thread. |
Arkoth 24
Phayder
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Posted - 2016.03.02 07:51:40 -
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Jacques d'Orleans wrote:I'm pretty sure, that none of you, who are whining about Evelopedia's dead right now has done anything to keep it updated. Yeap, we done nothing. Is it a reason to close an official infomation resource? I don't think so.
Jacques d'Orleans wrote:So please keep QQ more! Your tears and salt are just so delicious! This is EvE. So just try to pretend mature. |
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Arkoth 24
Phayder
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Posted - 2016.03.02 12:40:36 -
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Jacques d'Orleans wrote:Again, in my opinion, it was better to shut it down than let it give false infos to New Bros which could cause them making costly mistakes. Just as i pointed out in original post - there's no resource at the moment, which is 1 - up to date 2 - contains EVE lore and history 3 - officially approved at the same time.
So there's nothing to replace EVElopedia in full.
Jacques d'Orleans wrote:Nope, this is GD after all. It is your god given right to be pathetic. |
Arkoth 24
Phayder
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Posted - 2016.03.04 08:53:23 -
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Faryl Hanaya wrote:Signed.
I miss all the lore. I don't care if I was the only one reading my character's story page. At least I felt like I was part of this universe. I felt I could do some real RP. I felt like Watson writting Sherlock's adventure !
And a read only web site won't bring this back. Saved your page from Google cache. Thank you, Google cache. |
Arkoth 24
Phayder
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Posted - 2016.03.08 12:14:30 -
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DeMichael Crimson wrote:Obviously the Evelopedia was a little bit out dated but overall it was still a very good source of info, especially pertaining to the PvE aspect of Eve Online. Seeing that there's still a need for Evelopedia, I talked to Mr. Peabody and Sherman who both agreed to let me use their Wayback Machine to get a usable working snapshot. Evelopedia via Wayback MachineThis link enables Evelopedia viewing but no updating. Also the search option doesn't work so you'll have to manually go to a specific page by using the various inside wiki links. Hopefully someone can transcribe this info into a new wiki which can then be updated. DMC The best news since EvElopedia is gone.
Because this thread (surprisely) did not sink still and because it looks like a lot of people around want EvElopedia to be back, it would be nice if some ISD-guys bring this thread to DEV's attention so they may tell their official "NO F***ING WAY!" to community. |
Arkoth 24
Phayder
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Posted - 2016.03.18 08:39:14 -
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Surprisely this thread is still here. |
Arkoth 24
Phayder
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Posted - 2016.06.15 10:12:55 -
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Sustrai Aditua wrote:I knew, given time, this thread would grow to rival EVE-lo-peedia... Instead of building a threadnaught, why not build another informational site? No. WAIT! You want someone ELSE to do it! I GET IT! For a reason. I'm too lame in web-codin' by myself and quite not sure 'bout building new wiki on some pre-made engine for a reason described here:
Alexandros Balfros wrote:To be fair you're probably better off just using the SDE and coding something from the ground up, the issue with evelopedia is the pages were static, they had to be manually updated whereas using the SDE all you do is update the database and bam your "wiki" is already up to date with ship stats, item names and more :P But, if i'll have enough time for it, may be i'll take a try. Anyway, it looks like community accepted CCP's choice, and new wiki may become just my very own toy for myself only. |
Arkoth 24
Phayder
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Posted - 2016.06.23 09:08:19 -
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Samira Kernher wrote:The biggest issue is that EVElopedia was taken down before the replacement could be made. Looks like a kind of habbit:
- take down Wiki before make any replacement and ask users to make their own;
- take down browser with no replacement at all and let third-perty devs clear up the mess;
- swith off Dust and say that someday it will be replaced with some other project. |
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